saMvaad–2
spYTIkrNa
saMvaad
dao maoM kuC nae laaoga Aae hOM ]naka svaagat.
jaao phlaI baar
BaI saaqa maoM qao ]naka ifr sao svaagat.
[sa baar 10 laaogaaoM nao
ApnaI p`ivaiYTyaaM BaojaI hOM. yao hOM—
1–AnaUp Sau@laa¸ 2– kstUrI
jaaoSaI¸ 3–naIrja i~pazI¸ 4–maQaulata Araora¸ 5–maanaaoSaI
caOTjaI-¸ 6–rjanaI Baaga-va¸ 7–rajaoSa kumaar isaMh¸
8–raja ba~a¸ 9–ronau AhUjaa AaOr 10–lailat kumaar
Aa[e saMvaad Sau$ kroM AaOr
ZUMZoM phlao
p`Sna ka ]%tr:
'puYp
kI AiBalaaYaa' SaIYa-k kivata puYp jaOsaI kaomala
vastu ko kzaor bailadana kao sahja sarla SabdaoM maoM rKtI hO
yah baat tao sahI hO laoikna [sa kivata kI ek ivaSaoYata [sakI
sama–saamaiyakta hO.
yah kivata fUla jaOsaI jaD,
vastu ko kaomala )dya kI saMvaodnaSaIlata kao duQa-Ya- praËma
AaOr vaIrta ko saaqa p`stut krtI hO¸ jaao ivaraoQaaBaasa hO.
yah ivaraoQaaBaasa hI kivata kI dUsarI ivaSaoYata hO.
eosao sauMdr ivaraoQaaBaasa kao [tnao kma SabdaoM maoM sarlata
ko saaqa p`stut krnao vaalaI bahut kma rcanaaeM haoMgaI.
rcanaa samasaamaiyak hO
– [saka
Aqa- yah hO ik vah Apnao samaya kI iksaI ek ivaSaoYa GaTnaa
yaa pirvaoSa sao saMbaMiQat hO. [sa kivata kI rcanaa
BaartIya svatM~ta saMga`ama ko Aasapasa hu[-. 300 saala sao
gaulaama pD,o doSa ka [sa trh Acaanak ]z KD,o haonaa pUro
ivaSva ko ilae ek mahana GaTnaa qaI. kovala ]z KD,o haonaa hI
nahIM iba`iTSa jaOsaI mahana sa<aa ko saamanao kNa kNa maoM
ijasa trh ka mar imaTnao ka Baava samaayaa huAa qaa ]sakao yah
kivata baD,o kavyaa%mak ZMga sao bahut saMxaop maoM khtI
hO.
ivaraoQaaBaasa [sa kivata maoM
yah hO ik ³kuC p`itBaaigayaaoM nao [sakao samaJaa BaI hO´ ik
ek Aaor tao puYp [tnaa kaomala hO ik CUnao sao BaI maurJaa
jaae dUsarI Aaor ]saka )dya praËma sao [tnaa BarpUr hO ik vah
jaana donao kao Aatur hO¸ jabaik ]sako jaana donao sao BaI
laaBa kuC haonao vaalaa nahIM hO. pMiDt maaKnalaala catuvao-dI
[sa ivaraoQaaBaasa kI AaD, maoMo yah khnaa caahto hOM jaba ek
puYp [tnaa baD,a bailadana kr sakta hO tao jaao fUla sao AiQak
samaqa- hOM vao
]sasao khIM baD,a bailadana kr sakto hOM. vao [sa fUla ka
]dahrNa do kr doSa kI janata kao doSa pr mar imaTnao ko ilae
p`oirt kr doto hOM. saaqa hI vao kivata maoM
fUla ko bahanao jaIvana kI Anaok sauMdr isqaityaaoM ko ivaYaya
maoM cacaa- krto hOM AaOr AMitma pMi@t maoM maatRBaUima pr
SaISa caZanao kao pRqvaI ka EaoYztma kma- batato hOM. [sa trh
vao praoxa $p sao yah BaI kh doto hOM ik jaao maatRBaUima pr
SaISa caZ,anao jaOsaa kama nahIM kr sakto ]namaoM BaI Agar kuC
krnao kI tIva` [cCa hao tao vao Apnaa jaIvana maatRBaUima pr
SaISa caZ,anao vaalaaoM ka pqa kaomala banaanao maoM lagaa
sakto hOM. yaaina prspr sahyaaoga kI Baavanaa kao BaI [sa
kivata maoM bala idyaa gayaa hO.
[sa kivata ko rcaiyata pM
maaKnalaala catuvao-dI p~kar qao AaOr svatM~ta saMga`ama maoM
]nhaoMnao Baaga ilayaa qaa. rcanaa ka samasaamaiyak haonaa
p~kairta ka phlaa gauNa hO [sakao vao zIk trh sao jaanato qao.
saaqa hI vao saMskRt ko ivaWana qao. svatM~ta saonaanaI ko
doSap`oma¸ p~kar kI samasaamaiyak dRiYT AaOr saMskRt ivaWana
kI rcanaa saamaqya- [sa kivata maoM idKa[- doto hOM. yah saba
imala kr [sa rcanaa kao ivaSaoYa AaOr mahana banaato hOM.
inaralaa kI kivata 'taoD,tI
p%qar' Apnao yauga kI kavya prMpra ko tmaama p%qar taoD,tI
hO. [sailae vah Apnao
yauga kI mahana kivataAaoM maoM sao hO.
inaralaa CayaavaadI kivata ko
yauga ko rcanaakar hOM. ]sa yauga maoM kaomala kaMt pdavalaI
AaOr maQaur SabdaoM ka p`yaaoga haota qaa. kivata ka ivaYaya
BaI rhsyamaya ip`yatma ko rhsyamaya kaya-klaap yaa p`kRit maoM
Kao[- kao[- AnajaanaI klpnaa huAa krto qao. puranao CMd TUTo
qao pr tala laya AaOr p`asaaoM ka saaOMdya- ibaKr rha
qaa.
eosao samaya maoM laIk sao hT
kr mau@t CMd maoM rcanaa kI. rcanaa ka ivaYaya BaI na [-Svar¸
na p`kRit¸ na saurbaalaa¸ na kao[- Anya saaOMdya- yaa
kavyaanau$p vastu bailk doSa kI ek ]poixat maihlaa maja,dUr.
kivata kI pRYzBaUima maoM dRYya BaI sauhavanaa nahIM hO bailk
gamaI- kI ek kizna daophr hO. nayaa CMd¸ nayaa ivaYaya
AaOr nayaa pirdRSya [sa rcanaa kao mahana banaato hOM.
kivata maoM ]sa samaya ko saamaaijak pirvat-naaoM kI Jalak
BaI imalatI hO jabaik saamaMtvaad jaa cauka qaa¸ p`jaatM~ Aa
cauka qaa AaOr laaogaaoM kI dRiYT maoM kama krnao vaalao Aama
AadmaI ka mah%va baZ, rha qaa. [sa trh yah kivata Apnao
samaya maoM sqaaipt ZoraoM prMpraeM taoD,nao ko karNa ivaSaoYa
$p sao phcaanaI jaatI hO AaOr [saI karNa ihMdI saaih%ya maoM
[saka ivaSaoYa sqaana hO.
[sa p`Sna ko ]<ar maoM AnaUp kumaar Sau@laa¸ rajaoSa
kumaar isaMh¸ ronau AahUjaa nao kivata ko ivaYaya maoM ApnaI
jaao vyaa#yaa dI hO vah AcCI bana pD,I hO. ]sakao pZ, kr
lagata hO ik Aapnao kivata kao zIk sao samaJaa hO.
baakI laaogaaoM nao kao[-
ga,lat baat tao nahIM ilaKI pr kivata kao yaa tao zIk sao
samaJanao kI kaoiSaSa nahIM kI yaa ifr jaldI jaldI maoM paosT
ilaKI. klpnaaSaIlata AaOr saMvaodnaSaIlata ka saaOMdya-
lagaBaga 80 p`itSat kivataAaoM maoM doKa jaa sakta hO pr
kovala ]sako karNa kao[- kivata mahana saaibat hao jaae eosaa
samaJanaa zIk nahIM.
Aba Aato
hOM Sabdaqa- pr¸
yah doKkr KuSaI hu[- ik j,yaadatr laaogaaoM ka ihMdI &ana
AcCa hO. qaaoD,a qaaoD,a Ba`ma sabakao iksaI na iksaI
Sabd maoM rha.
@yaaoM Ba[-Æ SabdkaoYa iksa
idna kama AaegaaÆ jaba BaI SabdaoM ko Aqa- pUCo jaaeM
SabdkaoSa doKnaa na BaUlaoM. Aqa- ek Sabd ka hI haonaa
caaihe¸ tIna SabdaoM sao jyaada kBaI nahIM.
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Aa%maao%saga- –
bailadana
-
lalak – tIva` [cCa
-
inaiYËya yaaogadana–
inarqa-k sahyaaoga
-
haoma krnaa–%yaaganaa
³jalaa donaa´
-
stu%ya– p`SaMsanaIya
-
varoNya– varNa krnao
yaaogya AaOr pUjanaIya
@yaa
yah jaananaa caahto hOM ik SabdkaoYa AcCa kaOna saa
hOÆ jaao kivata AaOr saaih%ya ko xao~ maoM Aanaa
caahto hOM ]nhoM maorI raya maoM 'baRht\ ihMdI kaoYa'
³&anamaMDla ilaimaToD¸ vaaraNasaI´ KrIdnaa
caaihe.
Aba tIsaro
p`Sna ka spYTIkrNa
saurbaalaa
ka Aqa- hO dovaaMganaa yaa APsara. p`tIk maana kr iksaI sauMdr
s~I kao saurbaalaa kha jaa sakta hO.
vanamaalaI kRYNa Bagavaana ka ek
naama hO AaOr vah [sailae @yaaoM ik vao GauTnaaoM tk laMbaI
vanafUlaaoM kI maalaa phnaa krto qao. yahaM [-Svar ko Aqa-
maoM [sa Sabd ka p`yaaoga ikyaa gayaa hO. pr [-Svar ko
hja,araoM naama tao ifr vanamaalaI Sabd ka p`yaaoga hI @yaaoM
ikyaa gayaaÆ Saayad [sailae ik yahaM fUla kI baat hao rhI qaI
AaOr vanamaalaI Sabd yahaM kiva kao jyaada jaMcaa haogaa.
[sa
saMvaad maoM Aapnao Apnao sahyaaoigayaaoM ko ivacaar pZ,o AaOr
maorI vyaa#yaa BaI. [sa sabakao ek baar ifr Qyaana sao pZ,Mo
AaOr doKoM ik @yaa kuC p`Sna Anau<ar rh gae¸ @yaa khIM kuC
spYT nahIM huAaÆ AaOr Agar eosaa hO tao gauT maoM Apnao
ivacaar paosT kr doM. hma saba imala kr ]sako ]<ar¸ Aqa-¸
vyaa#yaa AaOr inaYkYa- kao ZUMZoMgao.
Aagao sao
Qyaana rKoM—
pUCo gae p`SnaaoM ko
]<ar Aarama sao ilaKoM. vat-inayaaM AaOr vyaakrNa duÉst
kroM AaOr ifr paosT BaojaoM. Aagao sao AapkI Ta[ipMga kI
gailtyaaM hmaarI sahyaaogaI dIipka jaaoSaI jaaMcaoMgaIM. phlao
saMvaad kI ga,laityaaoM kao laala rMga maoM gauT ko fa[la vaalao
Baaga maoM ek vaD- fa[la ko $p maoM AplaaoD kr doMgao taik Aap
laaoga ga,laityaaoM kao Qyaana sao doK laoM AaOr nayaa saMvaad
paosT krnao sao phlao sauQaar laoM. [na ga,laityaaoM sao
saMbaMiQat Apnao p`Sna AnauSaalaa maoM paosT kr sakto hOM. Ta[p krnao sao phlao
baayaIM Aaor idyaa gayaa ilaMk ³Ta[p
krto samaya yaad rKoM´
ja,$r pZ, laoM.
—pUiNa-maa
vama-na
Aagao—
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